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PostSubject: the end   Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:41 pm

all my life since i was a kid i have heard the end is near.am i the only one that has heard this or not? i always thought to myself
they didnt know what they were talking about now that i am a little older i catch myself saying and beleiving it. is anybody else
seeing things thats making them think the same way ?
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PostSubject: Re: the end   Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:37 pm

All the time. You are not alone. The End is getting closer because now there is a whole generation that doesn't know God or want to and have very little moral values.. ( I bet our parents thought the same thing) I believe as a direct result of taking prayer out of school. Satan has a free reign on their minds.

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PostSubject: Re: the end   Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:10 am

I have to get to work...but I like this and have plenty to say...when I have more time! cross

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PostSubject: Re: the end   Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:47 am

The end has been near for a few thousand years...I have a sneaking suspicion that "near" is not a time frame meant for our limited life spans....like the concept of a "young mountain range" etc.

Suspect

As far as Satan and prayer in schools go...I HOPE that not MAKING kids pray between the hours of school, but allowing them to pray from the time they get home to the time they go back to school should be adequate.

If a child is THAT close to not being saved that not praying in school sends them to hell, well, that's just scary.

Besides, they ARE allowed to pray in school, its just not an organized affair like the pledge of allegiance, etc.

IIRC, the saying of the Pledge as a kid was fairly meaningless...we all just droned the words because it was time to. A heart felt prayer, made when the feeling was right, rather than between buzzers in class, is probably just as pleasing to God, if not more so.

So, the end IS near...and always has been, and, always will be.


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PostSubject: Re: the end   Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:29 am

IIRC, the Bible teaches that no man will know precisely when the end is coming. Yet it does say that there will certain signs. Just because we perceive those signs, it still leaves open to a large extent how "near" the end really is.

As I get older, I believe I see more of the indications of an approaching end. But is it really that things are that much worse or changed now than when I was younger, or is it just that I am more sensitive to and perceptive about the changes and where they may lead?

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PostSubject: Re: the end   Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:23 pm

LOL

Well, as EVERY ONE alive at the time of THEIR life, going back thousands of years saw the same signs....I think its safe to say there's either a very long building process, perhaps beyond the scope of our ability to scale, or, that this is the status quo for now.

If you read greek accounts of life back then (I mean ancient greece, not the greece in today's travel brochures...), they too felt that civilization was going to hell in a hand basket, the youth were increasingly reckless and immoral, the weather's been especially unpredictable, and other signs that things were going south.

Things have apparently getting worse from the dawn of recorded history...according to those present at that time, recording it....apparently, at dawn.


Personally, I think the perspective is that in everyone's head (The consensus everyone, not the literal...), there are "The Good 'Ol Days", and then, what ever comes next.

As EVERYONE's good 'ol days are in the PAST...that creates the impression that the future is increasingly bleak....and that it USED to be better.

As each generation therefore feels that the next generation is on the way to hell...either everyones been going to hell, for a very long time....or, that the feeling is just that, a feeling, but not a feeling backed up by empirical observations.

So - if you look back....pretty much EVERY GENERATION had soothe sayers saying NOW is the end of days, and listing their observations as to WHY NOW was...

...Now, if ANY OF THEM had been RIGHT....well, the end would be not only near, it would have already occurred, and, we'd be in the after, rather than the before phase, etc.

In fact, it seems that NONE OF THEM were right, despite all of their very convincing evidence.

As NO ONE has yet correctly predicted the END....I'm going to go out on a limb here, and for the record, state that humans suck at predicting the END.

We seem to tend towards ALWAYS thinking its in OUR generation...and, we are ALWAYS wrong.

So - As I don't plan on changing anything anyway...I will continue to invest in a long term strategy, assume I may reach retirement age (despite a dauntingly long childhood...), and that my grandchildren will want to ride in my truck.

If the end comes, fine...I'm THERE.



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PostSubject: Re: the end   Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:36 pm

TJ wrote:
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Things have apparently getting worse from the dawn of recorded history...according to those present at that time, recording it....apparently, at dawn.
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As guess after living in the Garden of Eden and being evicted, things could only get worse.

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PostSubject: Re: the end   Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:53 pm

Well, worse for Adam and Eve.

Everyone after that had no recollection of THOSE good 'ol days....they had their OWN good 'ol days to look back at.

BTW - fig leaves are VERY prickly - they have thousands of little spikes on them....not having to wear them on your genitals would be a blessing.


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